cloversmom: I've decided to archive this one because I cannot find a method of hiding a regular or small sized cache here that doesn't get muggled or found by maintenance folks. I may put a micro somewhere around here since it is so close to my house, but I am not all that excited about any particular micro hide at the moment. Sorry for the delay, I was hoping that I was onto a hide style that would work, but it is not going to after all.